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The Ablist, an interview with Rob Swift...
The X-ecutioners began as The X-Men in 1988, a New York DJ crew founded
with the intention to battle and destroy all opposing crews, including Clark
Kent's 'Supermen'. Roc Raider is the only surviving member of the original
line up which included Steve D. The current crew, now known as The X-ecutioners
features: Rob Swift, Mista Sinista, Roc Raida, and Total Eclipse and has
been active since 1996. They have since released their debut album 'X-Pressions'
on Asphodel Records in 1997 and have spent the last three years working
on their sophomore effort: 'Built from Scratch', to be released on Jan 29th
2002.
Now signed to Loud records, The X-ecutioners are the first turntable-based
hiphop crew to get a major label deal. 'Built from Scratch' features collaborations
with Linkin Park ("It's Going Down"), DJ Premier, Big Pun (R.I.P.),
Kool G Rap, The Beat Junkies, Pharoah Monch, Everlast, Triple Threat, Xzibit
and Inspectah Deck. They have also added their own twist to turntablist
classics: Whiz Kid's "Play That Beat Mr. DJ" (with Fatman Scoop)
and Marley Marl's "Marley Scratch". This was their debut UK performance
ever and the first night of the European tour for 2002.
We
caught up with Rob Swift after the show to discover more about his views
of turntablism, the new album and forthcoming solo projects.

The new album seems very
diverse in nature, especially in the area of collaborations. Can you elaborate
on that?
Rob Swift: It is,
we got rock groups on there, we got MC's and DJ's. It's a well-rounded
album. Is there a natural progression through the set for the listener?
Rob Swift: Yes, it's like a journey through different styles of hiphop.
We have a track called 'Journey into Sound' with Kenny Mohammed, a guy
who does human beatbox. Then, as the album goes on you'll hear a track
with a rock group like Linkin Park. There's a track with The Beat Junkies:
'X-ecution of a Bumrush. So there are a variety of different styles for
people to get into.
How does the album
differ from your debut 'X-Pressions'?
Rob Swift: We've
all grown a great deal as DJ's. 'X-Pressions' was also done on an independent
label, whereas we are now signed to a major label. Therefore we have more
access to resources and connections. It is basically the next level of
recording. Do you feel that being signed to a major label validates the
art of turntablism? Rob Swift: I believe it validates the art of DJ'ing
as a whole. People are now really beginning to take us seriously as musicians,
not simply DJ's.
If I was taking the stance, maybe from
a classical background, that the turntable is not an instrument, how would
you convince me?
Rob Swift: I would
tell you that pretty much anything could be turned into an instrument.
As long as you are dealing with measures, octaves, tones and tempo's you
can create music with anything. You can use a trashcan as a percussive
devise, so If you are open-minded about it there are no boundaries. The
norm may be to look at the guitar, the violin or the bass as an instrument,
but the turntable essentially deals with sound and therefore it can be
used as an instrument. That's how all the other instruments were born,
through the same process. People who actually see us perform will realise
first hand why we believe that
What can you, as artists, do to ensure
that turntablism does not become a fad, exploited by the media?
Rob Swift: It is
important to emphasise well roundedness. Some DJ's get into the scene
and only work on the most technical areas of scratching and beat-juggling,
and they forget that is important to know who to blend music and know
how to rock a party. Your record collection needs to extend further that
just battle breaks, once we are able to instil those qualities of what
it is to a DJ in those new to the game, we will not have to worry about
it being a fad.
What methods would you use to achieve
that?
Rob Swift: Just
talking about it, other DJ's on our level talking and sharing their views,
because people listen to us. If you tell a DJ: 'Yo - just learn how to
scratch, it's not important to learn how to blend' - then you are truly
educating them.
Are there many hiphop artists in New York
working with community projects or in schools?
Rob Swift: I have
done some of that, I actually met DJ Precision at a school where I was
teaching DJ skills, and he has since become affiliated with the crew.
There are a few who are able to take the time out to teach and educate.
Are there many female DJ's in the US?
Rob Swift: Cuttin' Candy from 5th Platoon is one, Jazzy Joyce, Coco Chanel.
As long as you are a dope DJ, it doesn't really matter if you're male
of female.
If you were programming your ideal club
event, and had a carte-blanche to book anyone you want, who would you
choose?
Rob Swift: Grandmixer
DST, DJ Cash Money and D-Styles. MC's: Kool G Rap, Rakim and KRS One
Are you working on any more solo
projects? (Rob Swift has released two solo projects:
The Ablist (Asphodel, 1999) and Soulful Fruit (Stones Throw, 1997)
Rob Swift: I have
actually just finished a new album called 'Sound Event'. That will be
released on a label called 'Tablturns'. It should be released this summer.
It features Supernatural, Large Professor, a band called Dujeous, Good
Time, who has been on previous solo stuff of mine. Also a new guy named
Lee, plus DJ Klever and Radar, it should be a dope album
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