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Neds will be Hodding, an interview with Toadstyle...
As part of the live turntable outfit Ned Hoddings. Toadstyle has fast
become a favourite amongst many fans of the tablist artform with his
trademark look and cuts. Those same cuts took him out of his anonimity
and onto a place amongst the artists' roster at Styluswars, the US
label headed by fellow Ned Hodder Excess.
Since his first appearance on the scene Toadstyle has been a part of
Ned Hoddings (alongside Excess, Mike Boo and Ricci Rucker), of the
Bastrd Language Tour (Ned Hoddings, DStyles, Daddy Kev & Fat Jack),
released the first in a series of Bringles for Styluswars (Flatulent
Boy Confesses), produced one of the most popular scratch tools of 2004
(the limited Get Em, released through Sqratchattack) and has done many
showcases which have furthered his popularity. After a bit of a quiet
spell (with not much apart from his Get Em break released in 04)
Toadstyle is getting ready to once more do his thing with an
anticipated release on the revamped Styluswars label. Ahead of this,
Samsascratch from Hand Control and us had the chance the catch some
words with him by email and find out a bit more about his history and
the future.
Hi Toad, your fame came from the first
freestyle you put up years ago on the old TTNN message board (the one with a
high up-tempo loop), do you remember the context and the audience reaction? To
clear it up once for all was that shit sped up or not?
T: Nah that wasn't sped
up. At the time (when I learned how to link flares and patterns) I was all
about scratching fast and hard... and I had a 05 with a super loose fader in
it. There are only a few parts on that file that I actually like. A lot of that
file was patterns I would do over and over when I practiced (you know whenever
you get stumped you start repeating stuff). That's why it sounds robotic. And
then also some 'accidental' patterns happened in there. Trust me I can cut
faster than that, and so can other people... stuff matches up with a fast tempo a
lot easier than people think. I did a pattern on track 1 of Switchblade sermons
that's actually a lot faster than that.
Then Ricci contacted
you to be a member of Ned Hodding, is that right?
T: Nah I didn't meet
Ricci until later on, when we all went to the DMC. That's the first time we all
met up at once.
How was the first
contact with the other members of the crew?
T: Glenn (Excess) was
kind of a dick when I first was introduced to him hahahahaha. My friend Juan
(aka Dj Presyce) introduced me to him in New York when we went out there for the first Allies
battle. I think Presyce had asked me to cut or something and I just did some BS
cuts and Glenn gave that look like "uh whatever" Hashanah. But after our
paths crossed again with the whole Styluswars thing, we became real cool
friends. Mike was real chill, showed mad respect and all that. Glenn told me
about him before I met him and he was exactly the way he described. Ric I met
in a cut session, and that was probably the best way for me to meet him. He
told me his name was Bob though, which was kinda odd... I still don't know why
he did that.
Is it true that you
were cutting only to your own beats to develop your own style?
T: Yes this is true,
but it never was to develop my own style. I just liked my beats more and in
turn, it helped me make my own flavor.
Are you proud to see
your cuts style and beat productions style everywhere, even in battle? Or does
that make you sad? Do you think you changed the scratch game?
T: I's cool to have
influence on people, but I don't like it when people make it obvious that they
are trying to emulate instead of doing what they feel. I don't know about
changing 'the scratch game'... I wouldn't be so pretentious to say something like
that. Everything causes change.
You made cuts using
sentences on the Scetchbook track "If you don't break your neck we
will", is it dedicated to all those biters?
T: Not really, but If I
keep seeing people borrowing my flavor, I will dedicate something to them soon
enough.
Is Get'em really
limited to 1000 copies or is it a "promotional trick"? Because I
really have doubts.
T: Oh no, they really
are limited.
Talking about doubts,
you clearly say on your Stylus wars interview that "Switchblade
sermons" is not a one take freestyle CD, do you think people that are used
to hear "one take" freestyle Tape/CDs are considering this as
"cheating"? What is your opinion on that?
T: Nah that CD wasn't
intended for people who are thinking about things like "It wasn't one take
so it's cheating." It was intended for people who actually appreciate
scratch styles and flows. That's like saying your favorite vocalist is cheating
when he/she is recording verses separately in the studio.
Do you earn a living
from your music?
T: Kind of... It's back
and forth with my job and music.
Do you know much about
the European tablist scene? (People like Noisy Stylus, Birdy Nam Nam, C2C,
2tall, and others I've probably forgot)
T: Not a whole lot, but
I've judged ITFs in Germany and there I met and heard some real cool cats
over there. Overseas people got mad love.
What do you think of
Scetchbook? Piece of art? Pile of shit? Pile of art? Piece of shit? Pielce of
shart?
T: Dope album. I'm glad
to be a part of it.
What are your future
projects, I heard you are now working on a straight hip hop LP, where you make
the cuts and produce the beats, do you already have contacts with MCs? Who are
the MCs you appreciate the most?
T: Yeah I will be
putting out some hiphop stuff in the near future. I have a short list of MC's I
can actually get in touch with and collaboration with. I have too many favorite
MCs.
Ricci often says that
if Ned Hoddings enter the DMC battle, they will have the title. Do you think
it's true? If so, why don't you do that to bring more interest and fewer
headaches to the Battle scene?
T: I'd be lying if I
said I don't agree with him, but I don't think that a DMC title would benefit
anyone in our group very much. Me in particular... I wouldn't find that kind of
thing gratifying. But if the prize was like a lot of money, I would do it! haha
On a track, you scratch
a synth sound you played and pressed only for this purpose (you can hear it on
the "A night at the Knitting factory" DVD and on a DMC showcase in
Canada with Excess and D-styles). This way, the melody is really more complex
than everything else in the scratch scene. Do you think you can go even further
with scratch melodies?
T: Yeah of course... I
came up with that concept very fast; I'll take that a bit further soon enough.
What is this
"particular" Toadstyle cap you wear? If you don't mind, we can give
you a Hand control limited edition Trucker hat.
T: hahaha. The hat a
lot of people see me wear is a rare kind of Kepi. I can't stand trucker hats.
How do you feel on
stage? Relaxed?
T: Half and half...
Usually when things go wrong (we mess up or something) I feel more relaxed
because it can't get any worse.
What are you listening
to these days?
T: Always various
stuff, but the last thing in my CD walkman was a really good house music mix.
Numark TTX or Vestax
PDX?
T: Both.
A trak is deejaying for
Kanye West, what do you think about that?
T: That's good, I bet
he's having a lot of fun.
Who was the last
scratch DJ to make you say "woah" with a "ahhhhh" or
"fresh"?
T: When I judged the
Chicago DMC this year, this one older cat did some super basic transforms with
a phrase and it was sick.
I heard that you have
problem travelling by plane or something like that. Is that true?
T: Nah. Maybe you have
me confused with Ricci... He doesn't like heights I think.
What do you think is
the next trend in turntable music?
T: I don't know, I'm
not concerned with trends... I just want to see people be honest that's all.
Are you proud of the
Bastard Language Tour, or do you think you could have made it better?
T: Well like 60 percent
of the stuff was freestyle, so it was what it was. It was just some shows...
Nothing too big. That is like a tiny glimpse of what we could do if we have
time to get together and actually work something out.
Can you tell us
something funny that happened in your life?
T: One time I beat a
person so bad in Mortal Kombat 2 he threw his wallet/pouch thing at the screen
and money and change flew everywhere making a huge mess and MAD noise... it
was hysterical. It had to be like 10 bucks in change.
How was your first
kiss?
T: It was almost
perfect.
Do you consider
yourself as a nerd (either a scratch nerd, or a record nerd, a game nerd, a
cyber nerd, a sex nerd)? Are you highly addicted to something?
T: Hmmm. I collect kung
fu movies and I'm kind of a game nerd.
Are you attracted to
other forms of artistic expression than music?
T: Yes, all.
Favourite sneaker?
T: I dunno, I have all
types. I guess for now my fave would be my Reebok Pro Legacy pair.
Lil Jon or Lil Kim?
T: Neither.
ISP, Beat Junkies or
the X?
T: All of the above.
The girlfriend of your
dream?
T: I'm not interested
in a girlfriend at this point in time.
Laurent's questions:
Trying to cover a bit
more ground on your past for those that don't know, can you tell us how you
fell into scratching and got into it? Oh yeah and where does your name come
from?
T: My name comes from a
kung fu movie called "Five Deadly Venoms." Also the middle three
letters in Toadstyle is an homage to the man who I first heard scratching from.
You've mentioned in
your interview on SW that making scratch music in the studio (in the way you've
done live with Ned and BLT) doesn't interest you that much. But what about
merging production on samplers and computers, with scratch music, live
instruments, singers, rappers etc. the whole melting pot aspect of using what
you feel is right to make music at the time. Is that something that appeals to
you?
T: I specified that I
didn't care much for PURE 100% scratch music in the studio. Hybrid stuff is all
good.
How does it feel for
you to have come out onto the scene in recent years and already be involved and
working with people like D, Ricci, Mike and Excess, as well as being on
Styluswars and in a position to release your music (which is a situation I'm
sure many people would envy but which is also in a way quite lucky if you see
what I mean)?
T: It's not that big of
a deal. Anyone can release a record. I am fortunate though that I met and
befriended everyone. I don't feel lucky because its my skills that put me in
the position that I'm in, not luck.
Do you have any
thoughts on the way the media appropriates part of the turntablist scene and
its culture at times? (such as adverts, university courses, TV programs etc.)
Do you think it's all bad, or do you lean more towards the belief that any
attention put on this artform in any way will be beneficial in the long run?
T: Nah I don't think
about that. I don't care about that.
What do you think is
wrong with the scratch scene today and what do you think is dope?
T: I haven't paid
attention too much to the scratch scene to know. I just take part whenever I
can and contribute.
Any thoughts on Bush's
re-election?
T: At least he can't be
elected again.
If I say message boards
you say?
T: Same old.
Worst place on earth
you've been to, and the best one?
T: I'll answer that
when I've been everywhere. Peace and be on the
lookout, listen out for some new stuff from me. Hope you enjoy.
Thanks to Toad for his
time and Sam for the hook up. Interview conducted by Samsascratch for
Hand Control and Laurent Fintoni for Spin Science. For more information
on Toadstyle and his work check Styluswars.
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